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Toolsday Compact Router Review. They go by multiple names, trim router, compact router, laminate router, and today we put some of the most popular brands head to head to see which ones are worthy of purchase. I used and abused these routers and did a complete overview of some of the most important factors that should affect your buying decision. We spent a ton of time with each router and the results definitely surprised me. I make my high level recommendation at the end. As always, I have never and will never take money for paid reviews. These are tools I have purchased and tested extensively. Let me know what you’d like to see next. Thanks for watching! Please like, comment and subscribe. Cheers!
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Want to learn more about Routers? Check out this playlist – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWpKyJXgeoFGOQtgnJ1r1ttKhVzYaomXT
Dewalt DWP611 – https://amzn.to/34bAxLF
Bosch GFK125CE – https://amzn.to/3bTvwvg
Milwakee 2723-20 (Cordless) – https://amzn.to/3yJKQon
Makita RT0701C – https://amzn.to/3fJquTb
Makita XTR01 (cordless) – https://amzn.to/3fdKEpw
Rigid R2401 – https://amzn.to/3yBvGBh
Porter Cable PCE6430 – https://amzn.to/3wsJjRq
Ryobi P601 (Cordless) – https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-18-Volt-ONE-Cordless-Fixed-Base-Trim-Router-Tool-Only-with-Tool-Free-Depth-Adjustment-P601/206955202
I found the dewalt too big for my hands. My wife also prefers a smaller shaft that isnt too beefy. I have the bosch corded and the makita and the ergonomic fit is much nicer for those without huge paws.
Damn. I was so close to buying the Makita. Now I'm questioning my existence.
Makita comes with the squarer base plate you liked on your picks in the box that you can swap over if you get one of their bundles with the angle base.
Tighten the makita a bit before adjusting
I'm on the Ryobi platform, fuuuuuuuuuck.
Thank you
Great review. I have 2 DeWalt routers, one cordless and one corded for my CNC. I really like the cordless one. The adjustability is very convenient and accurate. One minor issue is that battery life, especially with the 2A battery, is fairly short. But since I have a bunch of DeWalt tools and several batteries, not a big issue. One other thing when changing bits with the base still on, the lock button is obscured until you adjust it down and then the wrench access is a bit tight, but again, a minor issue. Very happy with the DeWalt tools.
Expensive opinion gainer
Thanks for sharing. It is a great video.
I have a Porter Cable, the large size. I like it so much but they are too heavy for me and too big too. I am trying to get a small one with a plunge base. Porter cable stoped making palm router several years ago.
Would the Dewalt be better for a plunge base? Appreciate any help.
Awesome, thanks!!!
You know what is garbage your review! I have a Ryobi and does everything I need. Paid $50. New. So suck on that!
Great video as always, but I disagree with your comments on the Makita depth control….to a point anyway….
If you undo the main clasp all the way in one fell swoop, then yes, the router body will certainly drop, fast, but you can keep a small amount of pressure on the clamp with a single finger, and it allows you to dial in the depth in very controlled manner……or even leave the clamp tightened ever so slightly, taht also works.
The Milwaukee play can be fix. You need an Allen ranch to tighten the screw on the lever and the play will stop
It's so ironic that the ryobi Milwaukee an rigid were all various issues yet the rigid an ryobi are literally the same they are interchangeable not to mention the fact that because they are all made from t.t.i. they all three use the same motors with various arbors.
Great, I just bought a Ryobi. I'm a small project and hobbyist type woodworker, putting together a small "shop" (ha ha) of what I need the most affordable way to get the jobs done…. The Ryobi not only bad but failed????? Well, I'll try working with it, I was trying to avoid the multi brand, multi battery mess and have always found Ryobi satisfactory for my needs, I know they aren't top end by any means, but they've always given me the results I need.
Great video & info – thank you! I already have a larger fixed+plunge Bosch, and looking for my first trim router. Is there a benefit to staying in the Bosch family, or are the accessories not interchangeable between the two? Where I live, the Bosch Colt and DeWalt trim are exactly the same price – so I'd go with the DeWalt if there's no advantage to staying all Bosch.
Still very relevant!
11:10 absolute bullshit- shows u r ignorant. First u missed the adjusting screw and then u proceed to…,, however not perfect. Pure fucking gold Mr.
…These are the ones that I chose because I can return every one of them at Lowes or Home Depot.
Thank you for the advice ???
U remind me of ongo gablogian art critique every painting point to he will say bs and bs till he finds floor air-conditioning that is art so . Thanks showing best routers
Great overview of the routers! I'd like to hear your thoughts on the DeWalt 20v XR router vs. the corded. The feel of the rubber overmold on the XR is second to none and of course not having the cord get in the way is a plus.
just found your channel and i really like your content! its always so funny to me when an american says he is a makita fanboy while im a german beeing into dewalt 😀
With Makita u should get the set with the router base if you want better adjustment…
I like your honest review…very useful. Thank you.
I prefer the Ridgid…..size….weight….line of sight when cutting…..I had one for some yes sold it to get the dewalt….i regret it…..plus it come with more accessories. Cant beat that…..
Suscrito, gracias, me ayudó a decidir, saludos.
Just looked them up and the Dewalt and Bosch are the same price on Amazon. Update. Just bought the Dewalt for $137 with tax. Damned Utube videos costing me money again.?
I'm late to this and first of all let me say I am a modeller not a woodworker, although I do have a diy workshop full of tools. I was in need of a small router that I could use a 1/8th bit in with easy control to complete a modelling job, My full size router was too unweildy for what I was doing. Amazon offered up a cheap Chineseium knockoff of the Makita corded – I paid around $30 for it. Now it did the job I required of it, which brings me round to the question you never answered. How hot does the body get on those you tested? Like the Makita mine has a metal body, and after 3-4 minutes of use it gets too hot to hold and needs time to cool down. Even free running with no load it gets just as hot, I'm glad I didn't buy it to use in everyday contractors use!
can't even hold a bit sounds like user error to me lmao
The montage music and occasional router noises sounded like the intro to a Tool song (no pun intended).
I love your videos. I am new to routers and have been researching which one to buy. I had narrowed it down to the Bosch and you sold me on it, but I was wondering can you use a fixed router to make designs on wood like words? Bosch makes a 2.25 kit that is a fixed/plunge router. I was wondering what you thought about that comb? I will not be making any furniture or anything big. I make dog leash signs and wanted to cut out some words on the sign. Would a fixed router suffice? Thanks for the help.
Please let me tell you that I am NOT a "Fanboy" of ANY tool brand whatsoever, because I am NOT "married" to a certain battery system as I much prefer CORDED tools ( I can't see why the slender and flexible AC cord could be a "nuissance" when we still have a way more larger, stiffer and clumsier vacuum hose to deal with (when WE ALREADY KNOW that the wood dust in many species is quite toxic, and that many carpenters, cabinet makers and hobbyists are already suffered from respiratory illnesses, and THAT is a FACT). So, my tools are from many different brands, because I really search for the EXACT model of tool REGARDLESS of its brand, and I don't care the least if the tool color varies and does not "match"… On the Milwaukee routers, I definitely have to say that I bought the medium size/power one because it was the only router that was available to me with two bases, BUT, it came with several BAD Design aspects: 1) the motor slides down in both of its bases, unless you REALLY OVERTIGHTEN the strap to dangerous levels… the motor can has too little friction, so it tends to slowly and quietly slide down under the weight of the motor, getting deeper cuts without any warning… But that wasn't the only bad design point, as the height (cutting depth) mechanism is based on a too coarse, rough and loose screw, that to make things worse, has an hexagonal PLASTIC TIP, where you are suppossed to attach a long wrench to be able to adjust it from above a router table… Every time I use it, I am FEARING that I could break that plastic tip too easily… So, I always have to reach underneath to carry the weight of the router motor in order to use that coarse screw to make an adjustment… the worst possible kind of CHEAP and WEAK "router lift" of all!
And finally, the "Soft-Start" feature is so badly designed, like it is more a kind of 'delayed start' than a proper Soft start, as it only applies power between two to three seconds after you switch it on, during whose nothing happens… and SUDDENLY, the motor starts with almost full power! Thus, it is THE WORST kind of "sort-of Softstart"… as the power surge is almost the same as if it were a simple switch, only delayed, but not "soft"… Overall, a very mediocre design, too much freeplay in the mechanism, and not really feels precise, but crude compared with other brands. Your sample is not an isolated case, Milwaukee "engineers" seem to not know anything about precise woodworking at all, and THE ROUTERS are NOT their specialty.
Great comparison and review, so helpful I am new to using a router and would not know the little things that can make or break a good router tool. Very glad I watched your video. TY for taking the time and putting this together!
Just bought the Bosch Colt today, really excited to get my hands on it. I breathed a big sigh of relief because I saw this video AFTER the order haha. Thanks for the great content as always Jonathan!
Keep in mind, TTI owns ryobi, milwaukee and ridgid. They don't necessarily "share" designs because they're all independent companies…. but it makes sense that they seem to have the same issues.
Also, i actually really love my ryobi. I'm surprised you had such large issues with the collet, mine has been solid (and i got it for $45)
Ryobi Biutyful price an machin
Had to leave a comment.. thank you for taking time out to do something this special
ProWoodworker for over 40 years.This is the best shoot-out for this very important tool in the shop.
I purchased a WEN because it is stationary and I can plunge it too. I have the other junky ones you mentioned the ryobi cordless and the rigid corded your absolutely right about the depths changing during use very aggravating it took me forever to set hinge plates in 6 new door panels by the end of the day I was going to toss the unit in the trash.
The Dewalt is on sale right now for $127 even with your affiliate link. A no brainer.
There are a meager few people whose word I would take as gospel.
Thanks for taking the time to make the video, Jonathan. Just took delivery of the Bosch off the back of your recommendation – excited to put it to use!